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		<title>Problem 793: Igor Agapov - Threemover</title>
		<description>Discuss Problem 793: Igor Agapov - Threemover</description>
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			<title>Igor Agapov says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Dear Seetharaman and Diyan! 1) Russian proverb says: "Trust but verify" The program Olive has shown a solution in the first twin in the following recording (short notation): 1.a8Q! threat: 2.Qb8 + Kc6 3.Rd6 #, 2 ... Ka6 3.Rd6#. I.e. the program has "considered" that 1...Kc7 - does not protect against the threat and it did not consider this move as a defense. I believed it, but ... I have not checked it! Of course, these duals 2.Ka5/Kc5 - look very unpleasant. To improve the purity of the solution, we can adjust the solution recording in the first twin: a) Pb5>a6 1.a8Q a5+ 2.Q:a5+ Kc6 3.Qb5/Qc7# (the rest - without changes) Let this adjustment will be an alternative for the tourney judge (#3). 2) This idea has bee shown for 4 pieces: I.Agapov, Seven chess notes, in 2016 (November) - yacpdb/416963. But that task can not be considered as a "pure" because the last solution has organic dual on the 2nd move (1.a8S+ Ka6 2.Kc4/Kc5). That is why I have decided to adapt this scheme for 5 pieces. 3) I propose another (new) version of this task - №793.1: FEN: 8/P2K4/1k2p3/4R3/8/8/8/8 White: Kd7, Re5, Pa7 (3) Black: Kb6, Pe6 (2) #3 b) Kd7-b8 c) +Pe6-c6 d) +Kb8-c8 a) 1.a8R! Kb7 2.Raa5 Kb6 3.Reb5# b) 1.a8B! Ka6 2.Kc7 Ka7 3.Ra5# c) 1.a8Q! c5 2.Qa4 c5 3.Qb5# d) 1.a8S+! Ka6 2.Rc5! Ka7 3.Ra5# No duals + usual twins (no zero) = quite a Christmas story ... - Happy New Year 2017! Igor Agapov]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Igor Agapov</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 18:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Diyan Kostadinov says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I am not sure which of the two versions is better - the first is with perfect twins and play, but the second is record for economy... Or both can be published as different problems?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Diyan Kostadinov</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 16:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Diyan Kostadinov says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Well, I think that the zeroposition and duals can be avoided if we combine both problems - by Titarenko and Agapov. In that way we have a good economy - 2 solutions with 4 pieces and two with 5 (included wS) with a perfect play: white: Kc4, Ra7, Pb7 black: Kc6 b)Ra7-e8, c)+Sb5, d)+Se4 a) 1.b8R! (2.Kd4 Kd6 3.Rb6#) 1...Kd6 2.Re8 Kc6 3.Re6# b) 1.b8Q! Kd7 2.Qc8+ Kd6 3.Re6# c) 1.b8S+! Kb6 2.Sd7+ Kc6 3.Rc7# d) 1.b8B! Kb6 2.Sc5 Kc6 3.Ra6# But also is possible all solutions to be with only 4 pieces - AUW on the same square with only 4 pieces and black Minimal - a task for economy: white: Kb4, Re7, Pa7 black: Kb6 b)Re7-d8 c)Re7-c7 a) 1.a8B Ka6 2.Kc5 Ka5 3.Ra7# 1.a8R Kc6 2.Rd8 Kb6 3.Rd6# b) 1.a8Q Kc7 2.Qb8+ Kc6 3.Rd6# c) 1.a8S+ Ka6 2.Kc4(5) Ka5 3.Ra7#]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Diyan Kostadinov</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2017 06:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Seetharaman Kalyan says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[S.N.Ravishankar points out that in position (a) after 1.a8Q 2.Kc7 there is dual 2.Kc5,Ka5 & also the threat 2.Qb8+. But I think can be ignored in a task of this magnititude.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Seetharaman Kalyan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Seetharaman Kalyan says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Huge task! Pity zeroposition is necessary.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Seetharaman Kalyan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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